Tuesday, September 05, 2006

Hamas Government : for how long ?

For how long can Hamas Government stay ? The whole international community is united against them, except for Iran and Syria and very few countries. They have been elected to 'cause change' and get rid of the very corrupt Fatah-led government, but until now they have done almost nothing.
Hamas's 'ideas' appear to be lacking every logic. Hamas's structure might not be that bad, yet their goals and ideas as a Palestinian party are very far from reality. The call to "destroy Israel" cannot be rational. Calling for war against Israel is also not a rational step. I believe they have very serious mistakes for which they will have to reconsider many things.

For how long they can stand all these tremendous pressures on them? The problem is that the pressure is on the PEOPLE, not on Hamas itself alone. Will they consider this and check for how long can these poor Palestinians stand ?

It is time for newer voices in the Palestinian political life. We do not need more corruption and more dreams, we need to live just like other people. Live under the law , united, and free.

33 Comments:

At 9:28 PM, September 05, 2006, Blogger DesertPeace said...

Good to see you back Osaid...
According to your logic, Fidel Castro should have been removed decades ago. The entire 'free world' was (still is) opposed to his being in power... but he is still there. So is Morales in Bolivia and Chavez in Venezuela.
If we went by world opinion to determine who stays in power and for how long we would have a dozrn Olmerts, a dozen Bushes and a dozen Blairs.
Thank God things do not work that way.
Hamas was elected democratically and must be allowed to form a government. It will be up to the Palestinian people how long it lasts... not world opinion, and definitely not Israel.

 
At 10:30 PM, September 05, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

Is there a "leader" Osaid, whom every Palestinian trust? (serious question)

Tse.

 
At 4:04 AM, September 07, 2006, Anonymous Job said...

desertpeace, there is one key difference in your analogies. Those countries you speak of can support themselves, or have friendly countries who do. Plus, their political foundation does not call for the destruction of a sovereign country.

 
At 9:36 AM, September 08, 2006, Anonymous Loran said...

Hamas was created by Israel and the Americans helped. Just like Al Queida was created by the Americans with the Israeli's help..

 
At 1:48 PM, September 08, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

Loran have you ever heard of taking responsibilities for one's own acts? Hamas was created outta the MB, and financially supported by Israel while it concentrated on social affairs for the Palestinians - soon as it turned itself into a militant group obviously Israel did NOT support them anymore.
Djeeeeeeeezzzz...
Tse.

 
At 11:26 PM, September 08, 2006, Blogger Osaid Rasheed said...

Hello Tsedek,
Unfortunately, untill now there is no leader whom every Palestinian trusts.

 
At 12:40 AM, September 09, 2006, Blogger free eagle said...

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At 12:50 AM, September 09, 2006, Blogger free eagle said...

it is not hamas fault that most of countries are against its existance , actually it is unfair and against all logical concepts to appose a government was eleceted by the people , and hamas never had a chance to do any thing .. logical or illogical , they did nothing because they where attacked in the first day .

and now the only one who is attacking and making a war is israel not hamas .

we cannot judge hamas until it has its complete chance , then say what did it achieve.

 
At 12:45 AM, September 10, 2006, Blogger M. Simon said...

July 1940:

it is not germany's fault that most of countries are against its existance , actually it is unfair and against all logical concepts to appose a government was eleceted by the people , and germany never had a chance to do any thing .. logical or illogical , they did nothing because they where attacked in the first day .

and now the only one who is attacking and making a war is britain not germany .

we cannot judge germany until it has its complete chance , then say what did it achieve.

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A vote for genocide (read the Hamas charter) is not a good move.

However, if that is what the Palestinians want then they should not be crying about results. What ever happened to the strong spirit of "resistance". I guess it has given way to the weak spirit of complaining.

Do you expect to defeat Israel with complaints?

War is a tough business. You ought to either be strong or quit.

All this whining is unmanly. I was under the impression that Arabs valued manhood. I'd like to see some.

 
At 1:31 AM, September 10, 2006, Blogger M. Simon said...

This is a track back:

Hamas Under Severe Strain

Palestinian blogger Osaid Rasheed has a few words to say about the current state of affairs in Gaza/Palestine.

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Also included is a post from Palestinian Blogs

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Good work Osaid.

BTW how common are opinions like yours in Palestine?

 
At 2:08 AM, September 10, 2006, Blogger free eagle said...

so you are suggesting to let israel keep committing this war crimes against civilians , and surrounding gaza preventing even water,medicine and food from thousands of innocent people .. just to watch them suffer .

did you see gladiator ? did you know that romans were stadistics and bloody ?
ofcourse , they found pleasure in blood .. it was a game for them .

can you give me one difference between what you are asking for , and what romans used to do before ?

if you are talking about resistance .. you have to talk about blanced war , not a war against civilians .. can you tell me what will you feel when you find f16 flying over your house , bombarding your neighborhood?

should i call you brave if you didnt cry for losing your little brother ?
will this be about "manhood" ? or it will be about human feelings against activities naked of any morals ?

you were talking about hamas as it is germany .. can you tell me how many did hamas kill , and how many did israel kill ?
for me .. by comparing no of victims of both sides i can easly find that hamas represents britain ,and israel is germany .. who was using the most advanced weapons at that time to unleash hell over english civilians , using the missles .. it is equivalent to f16 now .

i am against violence .. against targeting civilians , but also israel left no choice for hamas , even when hamas ceased fire , israel kept targeting civilians , the criminal mind cant be hidden , it is opposed by its activities .

 
At 3:15 AM, September 10, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

Osaid, I know you're a very busy guy :) ..... (and then this word always pops up) BUT:

http://chamsa.blogspot.com/2006/09/gotcha.html

LOL

Tse.

 
At 1:02 AM, September 12, 2006, Blogger Jaye said...

desert peace, if you follow the money, it's not really true that the international community is opposed to Castro being in power. The US may be, but plenty of other countries (including EU members and China) do business with Castro. And even the US leadership is neurotic and hypocritical in the so-called logic of its sanctions against Cuba.

But I digress. :)

Hamas was elected to effect change, but then have done nothing for Palestine. Has one road been built? Has one school been constructed? Has one agreement been reached with another government for the improvement of the lives of Palestinians?

What, exactly has Hamas accomplishes -- and might I add that I do not ask that fecetiously... I truly am curious.

 
At 9:21 AM, September 12, 2006, Blogger DesertPeace said...

Jaye... Hamas has done NOTHING for the Palestinian people since it was elected by them. Why??? Because the state of Israel will not allow them to. Instead of being allowed to form a government, Israel has arrested most of the elected officials and has refused to allow them to do anything. Funds were cut off to the Palestinian government... funds that belong to them by the Israelis.
How can you expect them to build roads or schools with that happening? How can you expect them to come to any agreements through negotiations with anyone while they are not recognised as the elected government?
I know you are not being fascisous in your questioning, but you have to be aware of the facts.

 
At 2:27 PM, September 12, 2006, Blogger Greg said...

Osaid: I'm back, too. It's been a difficult time for me lately but I feel that with 9/11 having passed by and not having posted anything I should get back at it.

I enjoyed reading your post. Whereas most of the bloggers who comment here are racists and shahid-wanna-be's, you're a voice of reason in the desert(pun of "desertpeace" intended). The Hamas government is not one that will last very long and the longer it lasts the more the Palestinian people will suffer.

Commentators don't even call for Israel to stop its "occupation" of Judea and Samaria, they call for Israel to stop defending itself and have Palestinian terrorists kill innocent Israelis--whether they be Jewish, Muslim or Christian(I have respect for all). Where is the sanity here???

I, as an Israeli Jew and a Zionist,have respect for Palestinians and the Arabs in general.I wonder if some of these people here have ever even talked to a Joooo.

 
At 7:13 PM, September 12, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

A coalition gov't is gonna be formed now maybe things will get better...
Tse.

 
At 8:34 PM, September 12, 2006, Anonymous lennybruce said...

Hey Osaid,

I echo the thought nice to see you back. Hope all is well.

I guess I would have liked to see Hamas get more chance then what they got. Its kind of difficult to impossible to accomplish anything when the governments financing is totally cut off and a war starts in Gaza six months after the election.

Perhaps the efforts to form a national unity government will combine Hamas' lack of corruption history with political realism of a great deal of Fatah mainstream.

What happened to Hanan Ashrawi, Saeb Erekat and how does one go about developing political leaders with more productive and 'moderate' views?

 
At 8:59 PM, September 15, 2006, Anonymous odog said...

I am no supporter for Hamas, but when they were elected I tried to think positive, that maybe somrthing good could come of it. One thing you can say about Hamas is that they are well organised.

But they were never given an opportunity to govern, things could have been different, if there hadn't been such an extreme reaction by the international community, maybe we would have seen a softening of the Hamas stance...

That said, the Hamas victory was a gift to the State of Israel.

 
At 9:52 PM, September 15, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

Osaid?

 
At 12:10 PM, September 16, 2006, Anonymous odog said...

Hey Greg,

Palestinians in the OPT talk with and interact with Jews all the time. Unfortunately, its always in the context of occupation. Usually, its with soldiers at checkpoints.

 
At 10:12 PM, September 16, 2006, Blogger Ingrid said...

Osaid, I'm with Lenny (well, figuratively of course, we have not been acquainted) that I myself have been thinking of Hanan Ashrawi lately. As for Hamas, I also believe they did not have much of a chance to do anything with all the attempts to undermine them and of course, their military wing didn't help either. I hope that with this new unity gov't, something a bit more lasting (for a change) will come out of it. Throughout the Israel/Lebanon war they were, as usual, forgotten.
Wishing you all well in the region, and remember, there are always people who have something to gain by the ol' divide and conquer. We've been experiencing that very much here in the US..phoo! Where are the true peace makers? I just saw Clinton on tv this morning for a memorial service for the ex-governor Richards of Texas and the way he handled the grieving family I tell you, Bush is not good for the ME and not for Israel. Other people and countries are merely a means to his end and I hope that a new beginning between Israelis and Palestinians can be facilitated without this US' administration's interference. Hope you are doing (relatively well)
Ingrid

 
At 8:27 PM, September 20, 2006, Anonymous Michael said...

Hopefully a new colation govt. and agreement on the prisoner document will be a new beginning.

Palestinians need to get back to the most important political task they have - sucking the legitimacy out of the occupation.

 
At 7:54 PM, September 30, 2006, Blogger DesertPeace said...

Psssssssssst... where are you?

 
At 4:38 AM, October 03, 2006, Anonymous Job said...

Osaid, I hope you are safe and well. To answer your question; it doesn't seem too much longer the hamas government will survive. How bad is it their really, from your perspective?

 
At 7:47 PM, October 05, 2006, Blogger Tsedek said...

Osaid, are you ok?
You may email me if that's more convenient, but I really start to worry by now (eventhough I know you said you're busy with your new appointment)

Take care, bro,
Tse.

 
At 12:30 PM, October 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just about to leave the same comment Tsedek left. I hope everything is okay there with you and yours. A sign of life would be reassuring.

 
At 12:31 PM, October 14, 2006, Anonymous lennybruce said...

Pretty stupid of me to leave an anonymous comment right above here.. that wasnt the intention.

 
At 5:11 PM, October 14, 2006, Blogger shlemazl said...

Right on. Sadly I don't see any non-terrorist and non-corrupt Palestinian parties on the horizon. Let me know if I am wrong.

 
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At 12:14 PM, January 16, 2009, Blogger ZAMIR AHMED said...

Hamas is not a force to fight Zionist but it is movement against zionism and until Zionism get off this area Inshallah it will continue, I am Indian but I support only HAMAS and not Abbas or Fatah. The principle is behind that why to give away a inch of land to our enemy... no compromise.. we all will die but not give a inch of land, Inshallah.
Zamir Ahmed
India

 
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